It's about to be on like Donkey Kong
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rachg82For those who haven't seen it already:
The people voting so far must be high because Roslin is not winning in the BSG category & Echo is currently beating out DeWitt. And Topher is beating both of them, which I can tolerate, but Echo?! Beating DeWitt? And anyone beating Roslin? And WTF is up with Anya only having 3% of the vote for Buffy? I realize she hasn't a snowball's chance in Hell of winning, but only 3%? THIS CANNOT STAND.
And for those of you who don't watch BSG and still need a little extra help knowing who to vote for in that category? I AM HERE TO HELP:
GOD SPEED, MY FRIENDS. GOD SPEED.
Also, remember the "First Time fan-debates" in my picspam earlier? Well, shit's about to get real because I'm ready to announce my verdict on the issue for both XF and BSG.
Brawl #1: Was "All Things" the first time for Mulder & Scully?
Verdict: No.
Now, if you'd asked me my opinion on this in season 7? My verdict would've been "of course, WTF?" But that was before the stupid Shadow Man dude in season 9 told Scully he'd been watching her & knew about "that one lonely night" she let Mulder into "her" bed. Not Mulder's bed, HER bed. "All Things" happened at Mulder's place. So, knowing that, and knowing about that flashback scene in "Per Manum", here's my version of the First Time Sexings:
Mulder & Scully's first time happened immediately after the "Per Manum" flashbacks of "oh noes, in vitro FAIL!"-sadness, which I am guessing took place sometime after their New Years Eve kiss but before "All Things". Then, after they had sex, they both decided--without talking about it of course, because that's how they roll--to move on & act like nothing happened. This explains why Scully's all "I don't know what I have" when her old boy-toy asks her if she's involved with anyone in "All Things". But fortunately for our Scullz, she is able to accept that her place is with Mulder during that episode, which leads to their second time in the hay together at the end (after he leaves her on the couch, she wakes up and crawls into bed with him: *cue sexytimes*). This theory also explains the rise & fall of flirtyness between them throughout the 7th season. Right before "Millennium" I believe they were starting to try the in vitro--hence the first rise of flirtyness--and then it chilled out for a while until "All Things", when it increased again. BOOYAH, CASE CLOSED.
Brawl #2: Did Roslin & Adama frak on New Caprica?
Verdict: Let's let Adama address that, shall we?
In other words: No. THAT'S RIGHT, I SAID IT.
(hee, I can't wait to see the comments to this. It's just gonna be a landslide of "BITCH IS YOU CRAZY" comments, one after another. I know it)
And to really get the debate rolling: While I'm at least open to the possibility that they got it on after "The Hub", most of me has always believed--and continues to believe--that they did not consummate the relationship until the end-scene of "A Disquiet Follows My Soul." Oh yes, that's right, I'm siding with RDM on this one. I KNOW, I don't like it either.
Here's how it goes in my mind:
They first kissed in "Resurrection Ship Part II", then went back to their normal professional selves without any fuss. They both had too much in their lives to focus on as leaders--not to mention their personal issues & emotional walls--to let go & be together at that time.
Fast-forward to season 3: New Caprica happens, and they are as close to getting it on as they've ever been. But they don't, because they're still not ready. Adama is still tied to his ship and Laura's on the ground, and I don't think Adama wanted a part-time relationship with her. I think he convinced himself he had to keep his distance still because he couldn't settle on New Caprica himself, and didn't want to ruin what they had by being away all the time like with his first marriage. Not that this kept them from getting all snuggly-wuggly under the stars of course, but I don't think it went further than that (although I will concede there might've been some friskyness, but no full-on sexytimes. Even though I do have an icon that jokes about it, hee. But hey, I love the icon, okay? DON'T JUDGE). And I think he was too reserved & gentlemanly to move things past that upon subsequent visits to New Caprica. I think they missed their window that night & went back to dancing around each other for the rest of her time there.
And then, after New Caprica, Laura was back to being president and they'd been separated for so long, I think it took them a little time to decide where they stood with each other again. They got extremely flirty at the end of season 3, but it was still in a tentative way (imo), and to me that was just them testing the waters with each other & acknowledging what was between them. But they weren't ready to move past that yet, especially with the pressures of getting back into their normal roles as leaders of the fleet. I think they both still saw it as something they wanted, but something that wasn't appropriate to act on.
And then of course the trial happened and her cancer came back and Starbuck died (. . .PSYCH! Haha), all of which got in the way of them getting together temporarily. In the long run though I think her cancer's return is what actually finally helped to bring them together, along with the fact that she stayed in his quarters for a while. By the time "The Hub" happened, they were both ready at last to fully acknowledge what was between them *verbally*, but I still don't think they had the time to actually act on it yet. Because immediately after "The Hub", EarthFAIL followed right behind it, which as we all know frakked everything right up.
But after EarthFAIL, and after Roslin's temporary retreat from everyone (including Bill), her loss allowed her to basically say "frak it" to her responsibilities and just live for a while, which included some long-overdue frakking. This is not to say that she didn't care about the fleet anymore at all, but prior to "Revelations" her primary goal was to lead her people to Earth. Nothing else mattered. After their arrival on nuked!Earth, I think it was MUCH easier for her to say to herself, "Self, you are dying, and you may not be the Dying Leader you thought you were. Earth was a joke, and you don't have a lot of time left. So how's about we take advantage of the little time we do have left to jump on that man?"
And as for Bill? After Roslin's speech to him in the hallway about having earned the right to live, I don't think he could resist acting on that with her. So, at last, sexytimes were finally had. Hence the "omgggg Bill & Laura are nekkid" scene at the end of "A Disquiet Follows My Soul."
And there you have it, folks! My theory, laid out all pretty for everyone to rip apart. Hee. And. . .GO. *rings bell*
For our Vid of the Day, I can't think of a better one than this clip showing how Roslin will act if she doesn't win for favorite BSG character. DON'T PISS THIS WOMAN OFF, PEOPLE. IT WON'T BE PRETTY:
The people voting so far must be high because Roslin is not winning in the BSG category & Echo is currently beating out DeWitt. And Topher is beating both of them, which I can tolerate, but Echo?! Beating DeWitt? And anyone beating Roslin? And WTF is up with Anya only having 3% of the vote for Buffy? I realize she hasn't a snowball's chance in Hell of winning, but only 3%? THIS CANNOT STAND.
And for those of you who don't watch BSG and still need a little extra help knowing who to vote for in that category? I AM HERE TO HELP:
GOD SPEED, MY FRIENDS. GOD SPEED.
Also, remember the "First Time fan-debates" in my picspam earlier? Well, shit's about to get real because I'm ready to announce my verdict on the issue for both XF and BSG.
Brawl #1: Was "All Things" the first time for Mulder & Scully?
Verdict: No.
Now, if you'd asked me my opinion on this in season 7? My verdict would've been "of course, WTF?" But that was before the stupid Shadow Man dude in season 9 told Scully he'd been watching her & knew about "that one lonely night" she let Mulder into "her" bed. Not Mulder's bed, HER bed. "All Things" happened at Mulder's place. So, knowing that, and knowing about that flashback scene in "Per Manum", here's my version of the First Time Sexings:
Mulder & Scully's first time happened immediately after the "Per Manum" flashbacks of "oh noes, in vitro FAIL!"-sadness, which I am guessing took place sometime after their New Years Eve kiss but before "All Things". Then, after they had sex, they both decided--without talking about it of course, because that's how they roll--to move on & act like nothing happened. This explains why Scully's all "I don't know what I have" when her old boy-toy asks her if she's involved with anyone in "All Things". But fortunately for our Scullz, she is able to accept that her place is with Mulder during that episode, which leads to their second time in the hay together at the end (after he leaves her on the couch, she wakes up and crawls into bed with him: *cue sexytimes*). This theory also explains the rise & fall of flirtyness between them throughout the 7th season. Right before "Millennium" I believe they were starting to try the in vitro--hence the first rise of flirtyness--and then it chilled out for a while until "All Things", when it increased again. BOOYAH, CASE CLOSED.
Brawl #2: Did Roslin & Adama frak on New Caprica?
Verdict: Let's let Adama address that, shall we?
In other words: No. THAT'S RIGHT, I SAID IT.
(hee, I can't wait to see the comments to this. It's just gonna be a landslide of "BITCH IS YOU CRAZY" comments, one after another. I know it)
And to really get the debate rolling: While I'm at least open to the possibility that they got it on after "The Hub", most of me has always believed--and continues to believe--that they did not consummate the relationship until the end-scene of "A Disquiet Follows My Soul." Oh yes, that's right, I'm siding with RDM on this one. I KNOW, I don't like it either.
Here's how it goes in my mind:
They first kissed in "Resurrection Ship Part II", then went back to their normal professional selves without any fuss. They both had too much in their lives to focus on as leaders--not to mention their personal issues & emotional walls--to let go & be together at that time.
Fast-forward to season 3: New Caprica happens, and they are as close to getting it on as they've ever been. But they don't, because they're still not ready. Adama is still tied to his ship and Laura's on the ground, and I don't think Adama wanted a part-time relationship with her. I think he convinced himself he had to keep his distance still because he couldn't settle on New Caprica himself, and didn't want to ruin what they had by being away all the time like with his first marriage. Not that this kept them from getting all snuggly-wuggly under the stars of course, but I don't think it went further than that (although I will concede there might've been some friskyness, but no full-on sexytimes. Even though I do have an icon that jokes about it, hee. But hey, I love the icon, okay? DON'T JUDGE). And I think he was too reserved & gentlemanly to move things past that upon subsequent visits to New Caprica. I think they missed their window that night & went back to dancing around each other for the rest of her time there.
And then, after New Caprica, Laura was back to being president and they'd been separated for so long, I think it took them a little time to decide where they stood with each other again. They got extremely flirty at the end of season 3, but it was still in a tentative way (imo), and to me that was just them testing the waters with each other & acknowledging what was between them. But they weren't ready to move past that yet, especially with the pressures of getting back into their normal roles as leaders of the fleet. I think they both still saw it as something they wanted, but something that wasn't appropriate to act on.
And then of course the trial happened and her cancer came back and Starbuck died (. . .PSYCH! Haha), all of which got in the way of them getting together temporarily. In the long run though I think her cancer's return is what actually finally helped to bring them together, along with the fact that she stayed in his quarters for a while. By the time "The Hub" happened, they were both ready at last to fully acknowledge what was between them *verbally*, but I still don't think they had the time to actually act on it yet. Because immediately after "The Hub", EarthFAIL followed right behind it, which as we all know frakked everything right up.
But after EarthFAIL, and after Roslin's temporary retreat from everyone (including Bill), her loss allowed her to basically say "frak it" to her responsibilities and just live for a while, which included some long-overdue frakking. This is not to say that she didn't care about the fleet anymore at all, but prior to "Revelations" her primary goal was to lead her people to Earth. Nothing else mattered. After their arrival on nuked!Earth, I think it was MUCH easier for her to say to herself, "Self, you are dying, and you may not be the Dying Leader you thought you were. Earth was a joke, and you don't have a lot of time left. So how's about we take advantage of the little time we do have left to jump on that man?"
And as for Bill? After Roslin's speech to him in the hallway about having earned the right to live, I don't think he could resist acting on that with her. So, at last, sexytimes were finally had. Hence the "omgggg Bill & Laura are nekkid" scene at the end of "A Disquiet Follows My Soul."
And there you have it, folks! My theory, laid out all pretty for everyone to rip apart. Hee. And. . .GO. *rings bell*
For our Vid of the Day, I can't think of a better one than this clip showing how Roslin will act if she doesn't win for favorite BSG character. DON'T PISS THIS WOMAN OFF, PEOPLE. IT WON'T BE PRETTY:
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Date: 2010-03-03 07:27 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-03-04 02:41 am (UTC)Yeah, I know what you mean there. Like I said above, I'm flexible that they may have gotten together right after The Hub, but my normal standpoint is that ADFMS was the first time. I honestly think part of why I hold to it is because I like having a clear place to point to & say "that's when they got together, and canon can support it." I got tired of the ambiguous "when did they get together" game I had to play with XF for all those years. I want a clear answer now!
But in all seriousness, I actually totally respect & get why people believe they got together in season 3, and can see the appeal of it. It is sad they didn't have more time together, afterall. But I also think it lends even more beauty & preciousness to the time they did spend together, because they had so little of it, and because they embraced it so whole heartedly. I thought it was lovely.